My thoughts on my new Toyo tires

mpohio

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Central Ohio
I know alot of you have upsized to the 20" or bigger tires, but I didn't want to take that route unless I had to. I only had 35k on my Bridgestones oems, but I couldn't take them any longer. The noise, the bumps and handling really, well, sucked!! I needed an all weather tire for central Ohios mild to medium winters and this seemed to fit the bill.

I picked up some Toyo versado cuv 265/60 R18s 110V, from my local shop for $730 OTD. That is about the same price or less than I could have mail ordered them for.

Now I know I only have 250 miles on these, but this isn't my first rodeo. I have put new tires on 3 of my cars in the past 2 years. The first thing I had to do was let some air out as my shop had them at 36 to 37 PSI and my placard suggested 32 or 33.

First off, you can't hear these tires at all. It is amazing how much of the noise from the old ones I thought was coming from the FX. Now I feel like I need to get a louder, cooler exhaust on my FX.
Secondly, the handling seems amazing! No oversteer, drifting or bouncing around. I can take my hands off the wheel and it drives itself until the road either curves or banks.
Seeing we are going through a drought, I haven't had a chance to try wet handling.

Being my second day on these, I did notice a little softness first thing this morning, but that went away within a mile or so. Nothing like past tires I have owned, But I did barely notice it this morning.

So far I am pleasantly surprised with these. For the price I thought I was going to get a bargain tire with bargain handling, All the reviews I could find have been pretty stellar on these, so I am hoping the winter handling lives up to the hype. I will keep you posted as I put some more miles on these ;)



Warranty= 50k tread wear, 500 mile 45 day buyback if unhappy(full refund including cost of mounting and balancing).






http://toyotires.com/tire/pattern/versado-cuv
 
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Nice review man.

I agree the stockies suck! I switched to Yokohama Parada Spec-X tires and the difference in noise compared to the Bridgestone dueler was unreal. By the way I'm on stock 20's.
 
I was leaning towards them, until I did some research. Everyone out there said stay within your speed ratings. The highest Mich lat touring was "T" and I need "V". That was going down 3 classes. It is way more than just how fast your going, as you probably know already. For those that don't http://blog.tirevan.com/2011/01/18/tire-speed-rating-its-not-just-about-how-fast-you-drive/

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[TR]
[TD="width: 15%"]T[/TD]
[TD="width: 20%"]118 mph[/TD]
[TD="width: 20%"]190 km/h[/TD]
[TD="width: 45%"]Family Sedans & Vans[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 15%, bgcolor: #e0e0e0"]U[/TD]
[TD="width: 20%, bgcolor: #e0e0e0"]124 mph[/TD]
[TD="width: 20%, bgcolor: #e0e0e0"]200 km/h[/TD]
[TD="width: 45%, bgcolor: #e0e0e0"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 15%"]H[/TD]
[TD="width: 20%"]130 mph[/TD]
[TD="width: 20%"]210 km/h[/TD]
[TD="width: 45%"]Sport Sedans & Coupes[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 15%, bgcolor: #e0e0e0"]V[/TD]
[TD="width: 20%, bgcolor: #e0e0e0"]149 mph[/TD]
[TD="width: 20%, bgcolor: #e0e0e0"]240 km/h[/TD]
[TD="width: 45%, bgcolor: #e0e0e0"]Sport Sedans, Coupes & Sports Cars[/TD]
[/TR]
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Speed ratings are great and all, but how often will you ever go that speed. I've seen people get y rated tires on cars that have no business going near the mph rated; or cars that can't even reach that speed lol.



TapaTalkin'
 
http://blog.tirevan.com/2011/01/18/tire-speed-rating-its-not-just-about-how-fast-you-drive/

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[TD]T
[/TD]
[TD="width: 20%"]118 mph
[/TD]
[TD="width: 20%"]190 km/h
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[TD="width: 45%"]Family Sedans & Vans
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 15%, bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]U
[/TD]
[TD="width: 20%, bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]124 mph
[/TD]
[TD="width: 20%, bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]200 km/h
[/TD]
[TD="width: 45%, bgcolor: #E0E0E0"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 15%"]H
[/TD]
[TD="width: 20%"]130 mph
[/TD]
[TD="width: 20%"]210 km/h
[/TD]
[TD="width: 45%"]Sport Sedans & Coupes
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="width: 15%, bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]V
[/TD]
[TD="width: 20%, bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]149 mph
[/TD]
[TD="width: 20%, bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]240 km/h
[/TD]
[TD="width: 45%, bgcolor: #E0E0E0"]Sport Sedans, Coupes & Sports Cars
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

great read.
 
Pmg, as stated, it is much more than how fast you go. check out the link below and you will see what I mean. I also thought like you, until I actually did some research ;)
http://blog.tirevan.com/2011/01/18/tire-speed-rating-its-not-just-about-how-fast-you-drive/

All the experts seem to agree on this, so who the heck am I to disagree :(

Excerpt:
1. So is it really just about how fast you can drive on the tires?
2. Why do vehicle manufacturers put higher performance tires on vehicles that can’t even go that fast?
3. Why should I be worried about installing the proper speed rating on my vehicle?
Let’s go ahead and tackle these questions one by one.

1.) As stated before, it is partially correct that the speed rating does have to do with the just how fast you can drive on them. Staying under the speed that the tires are rated for is crucial for your safety as well as the safety of everyone else on the road. This leads in to the next question of the vehicle manufacturer’s selection of tires that exceed the speed capabilities of the vehicle.


2.) So why do manufacturers put high performance tires on vehicles? One good example of this is a Scion tC. This vehicle comes from the factory with tires that are “W” rated. Now I think that we can all agree that the Scion tC will most likely never even get close to 168 mph even downhill with a tail wind (No offense intended to the Scion tuner crowd). What would make them select such a robust tire for this vehicle? Well, the engineers at Scion had to take a number of things in to account when selecting the OEM tires. They had to make sure the tires could handle the load put on them from the vehicle. They had to make sure that the tires had good traction and ride quality. They also had to consider the top speed of the vehicle. In this particular case, the vehicle is actually limited to a top speed of 127 mph by electronic means. So why the selection of a “W” rated tire instead of an “H” or “V”? The Scion tC is marketed to a high performance segment. One of the side effects of speed rating is that the construction necessary to meet a higher speed rating affects the overall performance of the tire. A tire that is built with more cap plies and stiffer side walls to handle high speeds will generally handle much better and offer better traction and stopping ability.

3.) So why should you care about tire speed ratings?
If you ever get the chance to drive 3 of the same cars with the only change being the tires speed rating, you will quickly see the difference. A vehicle with an “S” speed rating will generally be quieter but will handle poorly when cornering and have a fairly long braking distance. A tire with a “V” rating will be slightly louder than an “S” because the stiffer construction will transmit road noise much more effectively. The “V” will also have significantly better cornering response and stopping ability. Moving on to a “W” speed rated tire will have the same effect as moving from the “S” to the “V”. Slightly louder, better handling and generally speaking a shorter braking distance. Vehicle engineers are aware of this and take in to consideration the effect that this will have on the vehicle. Why does your Camry have a “V” rated tire? Well it’s because the suspension installed in your vehicle will work much better with a higher speed rated tire. It’s also because those good brakes on the vehicle will benefit from the tires construction. So why should you be worried about installing the proper speed rating? Because if you would like your vehicle to handle the same, brake in about the same distance and be about as quiet as it was when you bought it, the speed rating will play a significant role in assuring this. You can always go up in speed rating and expect the normal changes in handling, noise and braking but you should never go down in speed rating. When it comes to emergency maneuvering, wouldn’t you want to have at least the minimum response from your vehicle that it was designed for?


 
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Ride quality, noise etc can certainly be affected by the rating. My point was, what's the point? It's a scion, it doesn't need the quietest, most comfortable and high speed achieving tire. No offense to scion owners of course. It's the same thing with those cars with 10k rimzzz; the car is worth 5k. What's the point :disapointed:
 
Update on your tires? I am looking to buy a new set this Fall and am interested in these... many reviews state that they are good except fall way below the mileage wear promise.
 
Update on your tires? I am looking to buy a new set this Fall and am interested in these... many reviews state that they are good except fall way below the mileage wear promise.

same here, i m also looking for a set, i m current running Nitto NT420s and its getting louder, very annoying... ><
i m consider Yokohama AVID ENVigor or Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza
 
Yep, the Nitto NT420S is one freaking loud and noisy tire after one summer and it getting louder and louder. Just bad tire.
 
I'm running with Kumho Ecsta ASX 275/30R24 now. Love these tires, but they've been discontinued with very limited stock. They were made in late 2007. Debating if I should get a set as spare. At the same time I still have about 50% tread left. Just hated to have $850 of tires seating in the basement for another year and half though. Go with the Yoko Parada Spec-X. These tires has been proven many times on this forum.
 
Whatever you do, don't pick Toyo tires I ran with Toyo Proxes that came stock with my other vehicle. These tires are crap and dangerous. Tends to hydroplane even with narrower spec tires. I'm planning to replace them with Yokos parada spec-x soon.


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Can't comment on Parada's or Toyo's, know for sure stay away from Falken's, really noisy and bad wet traction. My favorite tires so far are Hancook Ventus RH06. Comfortable and quite tires.
 
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