Push Button Start

that's awsome i either want that or the remote start! good luckwith the install and let us know howit goes.
 
If you have the ikey than a push start is not that much of an upgrade. Turning the knob or pushing a button is basically the same thing isn't it?
 
Dr.2K said:
If you have the ikey than a push start is not that much of an upgrade. Turning the knob or pushing a button is basically the same thing isn't it?
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They also offer a turn knob like those of us who have the tech package. No point for those of us in 1st gens with the tech package though.

The button looks cooler:tongue (2):
 
I would really like to have push button start just don't want to override the current system. Would you drill an all new hole then?
 
:tup: ouuh, nice find fxlr8. Love it. Very doable. I have done a few remote starter installations in other cars myself. I have plan to install a remote starter into my FX before the winter. Now, I'm debating whether to do the Push Start or Remote starter due to limited funding, hehehe.

Per the installation PDF, the only permanent alteration to current OEM is to cut the ACC wire. As noted in the installation PDF, add a toggle switch at the cut and toggle it to reconnect the ACC wire to resume full use of the OEM key. Now about the shaved key. I would suggest not to cut the too close to the key cylinder so you have some slack stick out to allow for a tiny hole drilled through the key. When needed to pull the shaved key out, just insert a pin/paper clip through the tiny hole and pull out the shaved key.

A hole will definitely needed to be drilled to make give it the OEM look.
 
Cool idea. Mounting the button opposite of the hazard switch, right of the ashtray would give it a nice and clean symmetrical look. But for fxlr8, he moved the lcd screen down there. Guess it wouldnt work there, haha.
 
^^^ those are OEM Nissan buttons, I like the other kits price though.

I am very tempted and will probably get this. Would be nice to replace the key hole with the push start button. Maybe just hide the factory key hole behind the dash and physically get rid of the mechanical steering wheel lock. I am not familiar with how are ignition system is put together behind the dash so I will talk with turbo and get some ideas.
 
ok, from that second site^^^ I assume the other is about the same...
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What if my car has a locking column? Can I use StarDrive?
There is no easy bypass for a car that has a mechanical steering wheel lock, and it will need to be defeated if you want to have the keyless experience. Do so at your own risk!

The electronic style steering wheel lock can be modified to work with the system.

How do I remove the column lock?
Discuss your options with technicians that perform Steering Column Repair.

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the biggest problem with any system like this is the manual ignition lock. on the fx with Ikey, when it senses the key it unlocks the ignition switch, but all this unlocking does is allows you to turn the cylinder, it doesn't actually turn the cylinder for you & the cylinder must be turned to unlock the steering. if your happy with getting in, pressing the button to start, then turning the cylinder yourself then these can be good, but if you really don't want to have to turn the cylinder at all, which to me defeats the whole purpose to begin with, then you will have to open up the column & remove the steering lock. this is def doable & truth is, no one will know that the steering lock is removed so security is not compromised too much, so this is probably the best way to do this for most people.

they want you to cut a key & leave it in the ign, now I'm assuming this is ONLy for the steering lock & not for the actual can buss security confirmation, but I'm not 100% sure of that. most if not all remote starts now a days can be programmed to read the can code for the key & then duplicate that particular code upon initiation of a start sequence, I assume this is no different, but these would be the 2 important questions I'd ask the manufacturer.

#1, is the cut key left in the cylinder solely for the steering lock function? is actual bypass handled through can communication independently from the key in the ignition?

#2, does this module handle all the load & switching of the whole ignition cycle throughout the whole cycle completely independent of the original ign switch or does it depend on the ign switch to actually drive the vehicle safely? in other words, will this module alone be reliable enough to supply all power to the vehicle throughout drive cycles?

find out these answers & then we can determine if this thing can be set up to be truly like a factory push button ignition or not
 
turbocad6 said:
#1, is the cut key left in the cylinder solely for the steering lock function? is actual bypass handled through can communication independently from the key in the ignition?

#2, does this module handle all the load & switching of the whole ignition cycle throughout the whole cycle completely independent of the original ign switch or does it depend on the ign switch to actually drive the vehicle safely? in other words, will this module alone be reliable enough to supply all power to the vehicle throughout drive cycles?
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Yes, the cut key is just for the steering lock.

I believe you do not need the ignition switch at all if you disable the steering wheel lock
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if that's the case then this should be fine with just the steering lock removed, then it should work just like a factory setup, push the button, car starts, put her in drive & go... never having to touch the cylinder at all... this would be the ideal way to do it. looks promising, I'd say it's worth a shot... removing the steering lock shouldn't be too terrible, just drop the column & see what needs to be removed, you can unbolt the ign lock from the column & grind off the lock pin for a permanent solution which is probably the best way to do it, I believe the cylinder itself drives the lock pin in & out, so you would either remove the engagement but then have to bury the ign cylinder, but in time of emergency that might be a hassle, I'd say just remove the lock pin itself by grinding it off, then reassemble, everything will be as it was & the ign cylinder will still remain functional should the need arise
 
I am going to order this, probably next week. If anybody wants to get this, test, and create a DIY before I do...Please be my guest... :wink:

Forgot, If I already have a viper can I just unplug the brain and the car will still start?
 
it should be fine just unplugging it, but one step better would be to trace to where they connected the starter interrupt relay & then eliminating that by re-soldering the original circuit with the interrupt relay removed... starter interrupt relay connections are a high chance of failure down the road.

some alarms do the starter interrupt relay internal to the brain, this would mean even with the brain unplugged the car still will not start. if that is the case then again, you will simply need to find out which wire was interrupted for the starting circuit & reconnect that circuit
 
Thanks,

I just found this also, should help if in the future if anybody does this install.
 
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