LPG in FX35 experiences ?

Case Holland

Case Holland

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Netherlands Nieuw Beijerland
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FX35 RWD Invidia exhaust
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Case
Has anyone experiences on installing or driving an FX on LPG.
Exp.like problems on valves or good exp. on this relatively cheaper way of driving?

Like to hear from you

Case
 
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It's a mixture of propane and butane depending on the temperature summer or winter.
Maybe it's not so much used/applied in the USA. In Europe its a growing market because of the high gas prices.
1,60 euro = 2,15 usd for 1 liter (95 oct) and that's per gallon 8,15 usd

How much do you guys pay for a gallon

Still interested in your experiences.

Case
 
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Case Holland said:
It's a mixture of propane and butane depending on the temperature summer or winter.
Maybe it's not so much used/applied in the USA. In Europe its a growing market because of the high gas prices.
1,60 euro = 2,15 usd for 1 liter (95 oct) and that's per gallon 8,15 usd

How much do you guys pay for a gallon

Still interested in your experiences.

Case
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Case, today in Canada where I live we are paying $1.199 Canadian per liter for regular gas and $1.299 Canadian per liter for premium or high test.

In Canada they were doing a few LPG conversions on cars but it really never caught on. That was a few years ago and you don't hear of it much anymore.
 
In Europe is fast growing market of LPG (GLP) installation.
Most of second hand FX in Italy is equiped with LPG.

ON YT u you will find some clips with FX35 on 1/4 mill. I talk with the owner - he got shop on Dominicana - He put Tatarini LPG only.

Anyway - I heard about issues with valves ( due to higher burn LPG temperature) and expensive head rebulids thats why I'm still doubt in LPG in FX35. FX45 got none of these issues.
 
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I had a jeep cherokee for about a week once that was all I could take it was the most gutless wonder not to mention the tank was in the vehicle and it smelled all the time. HATED IT!!!!!!
 
OK guys,
Thanks for your answers and yes problems can appear with modifications with fuel like lpg but now a days the lpg installations are better than 10 years ago for instance.
And sure burning temp.are higher which can cause damage on valves etc.
I once had a mitsubishi galant on lpg and blow out the engine headgasket. I think caused by the high temp.but i cant proove that.

Case
 
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I am running on LPG for allmost a year now and its still running fine.No problems so far.
There is no difference while driving on lpg.
It is build in by a specialised lpg garage.

Case

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Well the conversion costs 2200 euro so thats not nice.
But in the end it will pay back but that will last a few years.
Prices for gasoline are high about 1,75-1,80 euro/liter and for propane (lpg) 0,79 euro/liter.The other thing is that taxes for running propane are higher.They know how to find you.:disapointed:
Here below you can see what the costs vs savings are aprox. so you have an idea.
So about 2-3 years driving you will have paid of your investment and real savings starts.
These calculations are based on a G3 appointment thats a cheaper/lower tax rate. When you get G2 you will have to wait longer before savings starts about 3 years.
All depending on how many km/miles you make per year.

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[TD="colspan: 2"]LPG G3 savings[/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]A[/TD]
[TD]B[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
[TD]E[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
[TD]H[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]I[/TD]
[TD]H-/-I[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]after x no. years[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]JLM valve saver[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]B-/- D[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]investment[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Savings after no.years A[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Gasoline costs[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]LPG/Propane
costs[/TD]
[TD]Maintanance LPG installatie[/TD]
[TD]per 1 liter 1 ml JLM = aantal ml x 17 per 1,2 liter[/TD]
[TD]Total LPG costs = kolom D+E+F[/TD]
[TD]savings per year[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]LPG-system[/TD]
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[/TR]
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[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 6.037[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 4.255[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 50[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 42[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 4.347[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 1.690[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 2.200[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]-€ 510[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 12.074[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 8.511[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 50[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 39[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 8.600[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 3.474[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 2.200[/TD]
[TD]=[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 1.274[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 18.111[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 12.766[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 50[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 39[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 12.856[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 5.255[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 2.200[/TD]
[TD]=[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 3.055[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 24.148[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 17.022[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 50[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 39[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 17.111[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 7.126[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 2.200[/TD]
[TD]=[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 4.926[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 30.185[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 21.277[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 50[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 39[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 21.367[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 8.818[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 2.200[/TD]
[TD]=[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 6.618[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 36.222[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 25.533[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 50[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 39[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 25.622[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 10.600[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 2.200[/TD]
[TD]=[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 8.400[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 42.259[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 29.788[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 50[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 39[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 29.877[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 12.381[/TD]
[TD]-[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 2.200[/TD]
[TD]=[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]€ 10.181[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
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Heyy Case Holland on which milage is your calculation based? is it 19.000km?

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Hello Case Holland, is your LPG tank build into the trunk or under the car. In my current car it's under the car in place of the spare wheel.
 
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